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Sat, Sep. 18th, 2004, 07:11 pm

I love God.

How many people really think about what this means when they say it? When you say it, do you mean, God made me happy. Isn't that kind of selfish? If you were to say "I love my mother" and then do nothing, I think people would question your statement. Love is a dynamic thing. Love for a person means wanting that person to be happy. If you truly love God, that means you want to make God happy. You are willing to give up your selfish wants to add to His joy. How do we know how to make God happy? By reading His word, and doing what it teaches. This is why we should do what is right, not because from fear of Hell or hope of Heaven. We should do it because God loves each of us infinitely, and if we love Him in return, we will do what He asks.

We should always consider our words before we use them, especially in something as important as God.

I love God.

Sun, Sep. 19th, 2004 03:02 am (UTC)

"not from fear of Hell or hope of Heaven." True to some extent, but the Writings state that EVERYONE starts the road to salvation because of a fear of hell. Also, if you know that heaven is a state of conjunction with the Lord and of doing good to the neighbor, then there's not a thing wrong with doing good for the sake of heaven (since the heaven is in the act itself). Read TCR, I don't remember which number, but it makes it very clear that hope for Heaven is NOT selfish, since the Lord Himself promises heaven. That said, doing good so as to DESERVE Heaven (i.e. merit it, rather than experience it through the good deed) is selfish. So that's that. I'll get back to you with the number once I find it.

Sun, Sep. 19th, 2004 03:03 pm (UTC)
starkey: TCR 440

The number is TCR 440.

Sun, Sep. 19th, 2004 11:17 am (UTC)

I think I love God, but I don't think it's as easy as just giving up selfish wants.
I want to do right by the Lord, but don't always and I stuggle to think of Him more in my life. I think that my desire to do good must count for something (which sounds selfish as I say it but I don't mean it that way).

I've been reading Conjugial Love lately and it's so great to get some New Church-y ideas around me like this post... I've no one to talk to about this sort of stuff where I live.

Sun, Sep. 19th, 2004 06:28 pm (UTC)
eljin: Clarification

In this post, I was sort of writing about the ideal situation. Obviously we can't just suddenly stop having selfish wants and motivations. Doing good because of some selfish desire for Heaven is not the ideal, although it is definitely better than doing evil. If you understand what Heaven is, then you can have a hope for Heaven that is not selfish.

The main thing I was trying to get down was what it really means to love God. I don't think I completely understand what it means, but I'm trying to, and I want to get other people thinking about it too.

I haven't read that number yet, I'll probably add another reply once I do. Thanks.